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		<title>By: erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephanie,

Thanks for your comment.  I don&#039;t, of course, know for sure that none of them are queer.  What I do know, though, is that many of their comments so far have been ignorant of queer issues, culture and identities - which to me says they&#039;re not queer.  Certainly there have been some straight folks who have been queer-friendly, such as two women I talked with this afternoon.  

It sounds like your work environment is very queer-friendly, which is great.  I have many queer-friendly straight friends who I adore and feel just as  comfortable with as I do with my queer friends.  However, so far, I&#039;m not sure this is a queer-friendly environment. :(  Today the guest speaker - who is a straight man who does safe space trainings and talked about diversity, multiculturalism, and social justice - said he felt that the issue of whether sexuality can be changed is debatable.  This shocked me.  Now, I should say, he said many other things that I thought were excellent.  But in a presentation on diversity and social justice to stand in front of a class and say you think sexual orientation is a choice?!?  WTF?  I can&#039;t even remember the last time I had a conversation with someone about that - it is so accepted in the circles I live in that it&#039;s *not* a choice.

You aren&#039;t the only queer I know who loses track of all the letters. :)  However, I think it is different when a professor forgets the letters *while talking to a group of students who are going to be working with queer youth and kids from queer families and who don&#039;t seem particularly queer-friendly (with exceptions, of course).*  She is modeling behavior, and I don&#039;t agree with what she modeled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephanie,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.  I don&#8217;t, of course, know for sure that none of them are queer.  What I do know, though, is that many of their comments so far have been ignorant of queer issues, culture and identities &#8211; which to me says they&#8217;re not queer.  Certainly there have been some straight folks who have been queer-friendly, such as two women I talked with this afternoon.  </p>
<p>It sounds like your work environment is very queer-friendly, which is great.  I have many queer-friendly straight friends who I adore and feel just as  comfortable with as I do with my queer friends.  However, so far, I&#8217;m not sure this is a queer-friendly environment. <img src='http://www.oceandreamer.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   Today the guest speaker &#8211; who is a straight man who does safe space trainings and talked about diversity, multiculturalism, and social justice &#8211; said he felt that the issue of whether sexuality can be changed is debatable.  This shocked me.  Now, I should say, he said many other things that I thought were excellent.  But in a presentation on diversity and social justice to stand in front of a class and say you think sexual orientation is a choice?!?  WTF?  I can&#8217;t even remember the last time I had a conversation with someone about that &#8211; it is so accepted in the circles I live in that it&#8217;s *not* a choice.</p>
<p>You aren&#8217;t the only queer I know who loses track of all the letters. <img src='http://www.oceandreamer.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   However, I think it is different when a professor forgets the letters *while talking to a group of students who are going to be working with queer youth and kids from queer families and who don&#8217;t seem particularly queer-friendly (with exceptions, of course).*  She is modeling behavior, and I don&#8217;t agree with what she modeled.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 05:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you know they&#039;re all straight?  Not everyone talks about it upon first meeting someone - unless I have occasion to say &quot;my wife blah blah&quot; when I&#039;m talking to someone, they probably wouldn&#039;t know, since I don&#039;t dress/cut my hair typically queer.

And even if they are all straight, it doesn&#039;t mean that you can&#039;t have a great cohort with them.  The grad students in my department have a fantastic community, and I feel very comfortable and at home with them despite being the only &quot;practicing&quot; queer (there are a couple 1-on-the-Kinsey-scale type bisexual girls).  It helps that everyone is totally accepting, so hopefully that is the case with your group as well.  I think personality and common interests have a lot more to do with creating community than sexual orientation.  I once met up with a group of queer astronomers at a conference, and though they should technically be &quot;my people&quot; I was profoundly irritated by many of them and we didn&#039;t form a good group at all.  So give these folks a chance, you might be surprised.

And, a confession - sometimes *I* lose track of the letters in the acronym, especially when it starts getting so inclusive that the letter Q appears multiple times (the Q center at UW does this).  Bad queer, no toaster for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know they&#8217;re all straight?  Not everyone talks about it upon first meeting someone &#8211; unless I have occasion to say &#8220;my wife blah blah&#8221; when I&#8217;m talking to someone, they probably wouldn&#8217;t know, since I don&#8217;t dress/cut my hair typically queer.</p>
<p>And even if they are all straight, it doesn&#8217;t mean that you can&#8217;t have a great cohort with them.  The grad students in my department have a fantastic community, and I feel very comfortable and at home with them despite being the only &#8220;practicing&#8221; queer (there are a couple 1-on-the-Kinsey-scale type bisexual girls).  It helps that everyone is totally accepting, so hopefully that is the case with your group as well.  I think personality and common interests have a lot more to do with creating community than sexual orientation.  I once met up with a group of queer astronomers at a conference, and though they should technically be &#8220;my people&#8221; I was profoundly irritated by many of them and we didn&#8217;t form a good group at all.  So give these folks a chance, you might be surprised.</p>
<p>And, a confession &#8211; sometimes *I* lose track of the letters in the acronym, especially when it starts getting so inclusive that the letter Q appears multiple times (the Q center at UW does this).  Bad queer, no toaster for me.</p>
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